Hi Lane, you are spot on in that personal sovereignty is also absolutely key. The paradox, at least from my perspective, is that transformation appears to be a game where no one else can do you push-ups for you, yet it is also extremely difficult to do the work by yourself. A primary goal is absolutely to develop a stronger and more alig…
Hi Lane, you are spot on in that personal sovereignty is also absolutely key. The paradox, at least from my perspective, is that transformation appears to be a game where no one else can do you push-ups for you, yet it is also extremely difficult to do the work by yourself. A primary goal is absolutely to develop a stronger and more aligned personal/spirtual core. And I am all about self-help. But at least for me, there came a point where I couldn't move forward on my own, and found that finding and commiting to aligned support containers allowed me to develop much faster and with more integrity / safety / trust than I could on my own.
I really appreciate your response—it’s fascinating to see where our perspectives overlap and diverge. You’re right about the paradox: there’s a profound truth in the fact that no one else can do our inner work, yet sometimes the journey can be deeply challenging alone. Your experience with ‘support containers’ as a means to faster, safer, and more integrated growth is compelling and highlights the unique value that aligned community can bring.
It makes me think about how self-reliance and community could each serve as powerful mirrors in the transformation process. While one path is about cultivating inner strength to stand independently, the other is about finding trusted spaces that reflect and expand that strength. Maybe it’s less about choosing one over the other, and more about recognizing when we’re called to walk alone and when it’s time to lean into shared support.
I wonder how we might weave these approaches into a broader framework, where individuals are encouraged to develop their own inner resilience but are equally supported in finding aligned connections. In your view, what would an ideal balance between these two look like in practice? I’d be curious to explore how our insights might inform each other.
I’m glad you brought up the holarchy model! I really like the concept and am aware of Ken Wilber’s work—there’s so much wisdom in how it frames interconnection and evolution. I can see how the nested circles could apply to personal transformation and even the role of community in growth.
That said, I find myself at a bit of a bridge with it when it comes to my own framework on individual creativity. My focus tends to center on the sovereignty of the individual’s inner journey, especially in how we each navigate chaos and creativity as something uniquely our own. But I do think there are ideas within the holarchy that could inform this—particularly around how different layers might interact and build upon one another. It’s definitely something I want to explore further. I'm sure I'm missing something obvious here!
Hi Lane, you are spot on in that personal sovereignty is also absolutely key. The paradox, at least from my perspective, is that transformation appears to be a game where no one else can do you push-ups for you, yet it is also extremely difficult to do the work by yourself. A primary goal is absolutely to develop a stronger and more aligned personal/spirtual core. And I am all about self-help. But at least for me, there came a point where I couldn't move forward on my own, and found that finding and commiting to aligned support containers allowed me to develop much faster and with more integrity / safety / trust than I could on my own.
I really appreciate your response—it’s fascinating to see where our perspectives overlap and diverge. You’re right about the paradox: there’s a profound truth in the fact that no one else can do our inner work, yet sometimes the journey can be deeply challenging alone. Your experience with ‘support containers’ as a means to faster, safer, and more integrated growth is compelling and highlights the unique value that aligned community can bring.
It makes me think about how self-reliance and community could each serve as powerful mirrors in the transformation process. While one path is about cultivating inner strength to stand independently, the other is about finding trusted spaces that reflect and expand that strength. Maybe it’s less about choosing one over the other, and more about recognizing when we’re called to walk alone and when it’s time to lean into shared support.
I wonder how we might weave these approaches into a broader framework, where individuals are encouraged to develop their own inner resilience but are equally supported in finding aligned connections. In your view, what would an ideal balance between these two look like in practice? I’d be curious to explore how our insights might inform each other.
Maybe simplistic but the holarchy model of the nested circles is how I see it: you can’t have one without the previous one.
I’m glad you brought up the holarchy model! I really like the concept and am aware of Ken Wilber’s work—there’s so much wisdom in how it frames interconnection and evolution. I can see how the nested circles could apply to personal transformation and even the role of community in growth.
That said, I find myself at a bit of a bridge with it when it comes to my own framework on individual creativity. My focus tends to center on the sovereignty of the individual’s inner journey, especially in how we each navigate chaos and creativity as something uniquely our own. But I do think there are ideas within the holarchy that could inform this—particularly around how different layers might interact and build upon one another. It’s definitely something I want to explore further. I'm sure I'm missing something obvious here!